A former Jehovah's Witness has offered a rare insight into the religious group, describing it as a cult that "tries to control emotions, thought, information and behavior of a person". Seriously based on the 'overlap' generations definition Armageddon has been pushed back to 2154! Armageddon isn't what they say it is anyhow, even if it were true. Final Prophecy Cycle Timeline Images; . Because of this, some have called them false prophets. Note: The tribes of Dan and Ephraim are not included in this list because Dan was guilty of idolatry at Leviticus 24:11; Judges 18:1, 30; and 1 Kings 12:28-30 and Ephraim guilty of idolatry at Hosea 4:17 and Judges 17. (Luke 21:36) We must also follow up our prayers by studying Gods Word daily and meditating on it, including its amazing prophecies concerning our times. Revelation is clear that it is the Kings of the earth versus God. Matthew 24:21 NWT. This may seem counter-intuitive to getting rid of someone, but the fact is that if you don't answer the door, they are likely to mark you as "not home" and return in the near future. The memory of 1975 is still too fresh for many, and they know their critics (us) will quickly sieze upon such mistakes. . When I was still a JW some of us were wondering aloud who the "king of the north" is now. Im not questioning the argument for the presence being some period of time, it is simply that to use these verses (Matthew 24:37-39 and Luke 12:26-28) to definitively do so creates more questions and speculation than it needs to, given all of the other proof texts and reasoning that could be used (to support the parousia being a period of time). (Rev. (Rev. This crazy religion changes doctrine more than some people change underwear. ", I asked. 1:7-9) We know God when we know his likes, dislikes, and standards. In this article, we discuss what Armageddon is, what events will lead up to it, and how we can remain faithful as the end draws near. Is it just me, or do they swing from one extreme to another? One of the biggest problems for the governing body is that 2034 is an awful long time away. Moreover, the need to revise our understanding somewhat does not make us false prophets or change the fact that we are living in "the last days," soon to experience the "great tribulation" that will pave the way for the earthly Paradise. Page 15, Paragraph 9 "Jehovah has kept these warnings in front of his people by means of timely reminders through the spiritual food provided by 'the faithful and discreet slave'". copied from: http://www.jwfiles.com/2034.htm. 6:33; 24:14) It also includes supporting Christs anointed brothers as they care for their weighty responsibilities.Matt. 3. 11. (The Finished Mystery, 1917, p. 404), 1920 'we may expect 1925 to witness the return of these faithful men of from the condition of death, being resurrected' (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, 1920, p. 88), 1920 'Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old' (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, 1920, p. 89-90), 1922 "The indisputable facts, therefore, show that the "time of the end" began in 1799; that the Lord's second presence began in 1874." You must not get frightened at him.'. 17:11) But Armageddon does not refer to any literal place on earth. 4:18)"February 15, 1981, page 19. It is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the 'slave' as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision. Armageddon is just ahead. Here is our best guess at this point in timeblah blah blah." Wow long topic title. Not at all. If you truly want to be rid of them, you will need to answer the door and let them know. It's the absolute best way to scam people I have yet seen. (Rev. (Rev. They contend: It is the generation of people who saw the catastrophic events that broke forth in connection with World War I from 1914 onward (Watchtower, op. They'll work their way up to it over the next couple decades, you'll see. 9. (1John 2:3-5; 5:3) When we show that we know God, we have the honor of being known by him, which will be lifesaving at Armageddon! Fred was half blind, and so am I from studying texts in Hebrew and Greek and writing java code. This is why many Witnesses went into the 1980s and early 1990s with great confidence. Poul Bregninge's parents became Jehovah's Witnesses when he was 2 years old. They will not even be armed! The man . (a)How do we show that we know God? Murderers! The general warnings about the nearness of the end, no matter how strongly they are worded, will simply not have the same impact as a definite prediction. The leaders of the Watchtower Organization have long taught their members that THEY, and THEY, alone, are "appointed by Jesus" to dispense His truth, or, as it is put to the rank-and-file, "spiritual food," and that if a Jehovah's Witness does not follow the teachings of the Watchtower, and remain "faithful" to the Watchtower Organization, they are "going against God and His . 70 Replies That's awful far away. They knew that they had made a mistake about 1975, but at the same time they knew that the generation was fast running out in any case and that the end must come within a couple of decades at the most. Third, as we will see later in this article, the war of Armageddon will begin when the worlds kings attack Gods people, who are scattered throughout the earth. As we have seen in recent years, subtlety isn't working; they've gone bat-crap crazy in their bluntness. (2 Tim. latest Jehovah's Witnesses are among the most racially and ethnically diverse religious groups in America. Are There Signs of the Second Coming of Christ? Seriously based on the 'overlap' generations definition Armageddon has been pushed back to 2154! Never did they say, 'These are the words of Jehovah. Jehovah's Witnesses, however, expected that the . THE SUPREME COURT STILL INTERPRETS, thank God; and Christ Jesus, the Court?s official mouthpiece of interpretation, reserves to himself that office as head of Jehovah?s ?faithful and wise servant? The present study of 50 Jehovah's Witnesses admitted to the Mental Health Service facilities of Western Australia suggests that members of this section of the community are more likely to be admitted to a psychiatric hospital than the general population. (Daniel 12:4) How should we respond to warnings we have been given? [Christ] outlined things that would befall the Jewish nation during the execution of Jehovahs judgment upon Jerusalem at the hands of the Roman general Titus (Dan. ; p. 99), 1917 "And the mountains were not found. 11:3; Acts 14:23. The current president is Don Adams. marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. 16 By their fruits YOU will recognize them Have Jehovah?s Witnesses and the ?Faithful and Discrete Slave? 5:19-21. Just google Armageddon 2034. 10. 5. jw 1993 3/22 Why So Many False Alarms? The first was the initial portion of Matthew 24, while the latter was an excerpt from Pauls second epistle to Timothy. Copyright 2001-2015 Jehovah's Witness Discussion Forum | JW.Org Community Information. 20:17, 22,23) And he may use his angels to slay the wicked. Why not? 1986 June 8 p.9 "Would That All Were Prophets!" Maybe the fix for posts being cut off got applied to the topic titles as well. 2. One would suppose (and even hope) that eventually they would learn from their dismal record of date-setting blunders. As I stated earlier about the account in Luke 17:26-28 referring to the occurrence (event) of the end versus the period of time it would seem that clear thinking would prevent us from trying to attach a length of time of any sort to the presence of Jesus Christ based upon the account in Matthew citied in the article. It will NEVER come. beliefs, Is the Watchtower Predicting The End By 2034 Through Subtle Hints? 77:12) These activities, along with a full share in the ministry, will keep our faith strong and our hope alive! I am just setting out one of the possibilities. Is it some brilliant, farsighted man, some human who is a master organizer? (Acts 1:6) But because expectations have at times been premature and so have not been fulfilled, does this mean that God has somehow changed his purpose? 18:7,8. I asked this question (and I received no answer). 1879 was the start of The Watchtower and 1999 was 120 years later. "It is easy for the established churched of Christendom and other people to criticize JWs because their publications have, at times, stated that certain things could take place on 'certain dates'.True, some expectations that appeared to be backed up by Bible chronology did not materializee at the anticipated time. *** Watchtower 1972 August 1 p.458 Loving Oversight of the Congregation of God ***, THEOCRATIC APPOINTMENT IN THE CONGREGATION. Therefore, these revisions and changes are themselves fully theocratic, so they do not alter in any way the fully theocratic structure of the organization. 37:2337-Minute Listen. Jehovah's Witnesses - for indeed, it is they - are stepping up their presence in city centres across the UK in an effort to attract converts to a church that claims more than 8 million . Now, all they have to do is shift the start date to 1914 and they've got 2034 to look forward to. But I did agree with those who suggested that it may be an indication of things to come. by xbro Like clouds covering the land, he will attack Jehovahs people. But this lie will be especially dangerous because it will give people a false sense of security just before the greatest tribulation in human history begins. The only consistent thing about that record has been its absolute failure. But is it not preferrable to make some mistakes because of 'over-eagerness' to see God's purposes accomplished then to be spiritually asleep as to the fulfillment of Bible prophecy . Furthermore, followers of the sect are three times more likely to be diagnosed as suffering . Only 120 years more and Jehovah would bring 'the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens.' There is no comparison! Let us consider each of these in turn. They say the term "God," is merely a title, and that the real name for God is "Jehovah.". The Jehovah's Witnesses believe that saluting flags, including that of the United States, is tantamount to worshipping a graven image. Jehovahs Witnesses teaches that Armageddon will start in the year 2034. 15 " Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep's covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves.